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Old 01-26-2010, 03:54 PM   #51
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I guess I'd like to add my two cents, and since the pendulum seems to be swinging back and forth from "tell us what you think" to "shut up and enjoy what you're given", I'd just like to say that as a die hard fan of this series, my interest is only in helping make it even better than it already is. That, and my confidence in Kay's ability to discern well thought-out, constructive criticism from perpetual whining leads me to believe that not all comments here are a waste of the time it takes to type them.

I somewhat endorse what Zane was saying in regards to getting back to what I thought were the core fundamentals of the series. I thought it was settled in a previous thread that this series WOULD be more centered around the MDEC dating site going forward (as the impetus for pairings)?

Kay, you mentioned that Dan said he was aware of some kind of staleness or repetitiveness that was already apparent, and to be honest, I was very surprised to read that. There have been SO many fresh ideas flushed out here in just this forum that revolve around the MDEC concept going in all kinds of interesting and different directions. Sure, not ALL are winners or practical to shoot, but there are plenty of tangents remaining to explore while still remaining true to the fundamentals of the concept.

I commend you and Dan for being forward thinkers. I'm not suggesting you re-shoot the same setups/scenarios forever. There is however, a specific guideline, or "spirit" that I personally would like to see as fundamental to the MDEC series:

The women/girls, true to the aspirations of the MDEC site, are meeting primarily because they have a physical interest in the other parties.

I don't prefer to see women conning other women out of money, blackmailed, only sleeping with each other for favors/work, or to be kept safe from the law. I want there to be desire, or at the very least curiosity (coupled with fear and hesitation), to be with another female without the tarnish of a different primary motive. I want to see women/girls that are seeking love, a relationship, or even just sex, with another woman as their primary motive for meeting.

Of course, one party can be more forward than the other at times. One party might not even be fully on board with it initially, or even aware of the group's purpose. But I frown on there ever being the idea that this would be followed through with for anything but their own fulfillment or pleasure.

For me personally, the introduction of external conflicts and secondary motivations for these trysts removes a large chunk of what makes them special. What's more, I don't think adding in all of these other reasons for these setups is even necessary. There is so much personal, intimate drama to be created out of these meetings by the sheer nature of them alone. The first volumes of the series touched on this well. There are plenty of stones left unturned...

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I guess I'd like to add my two cents, and since the pendulum seems to be swinging back and forth from "tell us what you think" to "shut up and enjoy what you're given", I'd just like to say that as a die hard fan of this series, my interest is only in helping make it even better than it already is. That, and my confidence in Kay's ability to discern well thought-out, constructive criticism from perpetual whining leads me to believe that not all comments here are a waste of the time it takes to type them.

I somewhat endorse what Zane was saying in regards to getting back to what I thought were the core fundamentals of the series. I thought it was settled in a previous thread that this series WOULD be more centered around the MDEC dating site going forward (as the impetus for pairings)?

Kay, you mentioned that Dan said he was aware of some kind of staleness or repetitiveness that was already apparent, and to be honest, I was very surprised to read that. There have been SO many fresh ideas flushed out here in just this forum that revolve around the MDEC concept going in all kinds of interesting and different directions. Sure, not ALL are winners or practical to shoot, but there are plenty of tangents remaining to explore while still remaining true to the fundamentals of the concept.

I commend you and Dan for being forward thinkers. I'm not suggesting you re-shoot the same setups/scenarios forever. There is however, a specific guideline, or "spirit" that I personally would like to see as fundamental to the MDEC series:

The women/girls, true to the aspirations of the MDEC site, are meeting primarily because they have a physical interest in the other parties.

I don't prefer to see women conning other women out of money, blackmailed, only sleeping with each other for favors/work, or to be kept safe from the law. I want there to be desire, or at the very least curiosity (coupled with fear and hesitation), to be with another female without the tarnish of a different primary motive. I want to see women/girls that are seeking love, a relationship, or even just sex, with another woman as their primary motive for meeting.

Of course, one party can be more forward than the other at times. One party might not even be fully on board with it initially, or even aware of the group's purpose. But I frown on there ever being the idea that this would be followed through with for anything but their own fulfillment or pleasure.

For me personally, the introduction of external conflicts and secondary motivations for these trysts removes a large chunk of what makes them special. What's more, I don't think adding in all of these other reasons for these setups is even necessary. There is so much personal, intimate drama to be created out of these meetings by the sheer nature of them alone. The first volumes of the series touched on this well. There are plenty of stones left unturned...

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I deeply appreciate your comments and so much of what you say I totally agree with. It is January, almost February, but last September/October, Dan and I were ready to try some new things with the concept. It's not that we are walking away from the guttural,dramatic, and more emotionally felt episodes (I noticed mostly with Maggie and Hayden early on) that have been spoken about here on the forum. Dan wants to do many different things with this series and so do I. Whether it was apparent to you or not, we felt a staleness coming over the 'I want to fuck you, you want to fuck me, even tho your mommy is in the next room' story basis. That is not to say that we wont (and already have filmed!) MDEC story lines that are more like what was happening before I started introducing broader concepts. We want a mix of old and new. Look, the script for the con-artists concept was quite different, with emotional textures and nuances that didn't quite translate in the production. The actresses gave it their best shot with the acting ranges they each have. Anyway, like in life, if you are basing a series around a website where couples meet for a sexual exchange, you can never be quite sure of the pairings, and just what kind of personalities you are getting involved with. We wanted to capture some of that in the series, too. That kind of scripting is the essence of all successful series...porn or mainstream.


Also, please keep in mind that Dan has always checked the story suggestions on the forum. He could have pursued any of the ideas here. If he chooses not to it is his decision ultimately, as is everything that happens at his company. He can say no to anything I write. Just because I write it doesn't mean he's going to do it. I'm just working within my boundaries, adding where I can, but knowing when I can't.

So, I hear you, and I don't think you need to worry. I'm not this crazy creative fool who came to GFF with a mind to change everything. Truly, I'm just here to add input where I can.

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Old 01-28-2010, 07:24 PM   #53
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Well, I finally made it through this disc. I've been quite busy the past week or so, & when I did view it, I couldn't get past the Persia/Jessi scene(man, that is hot)! I love this movie, & it's very entertaining and arousing all the way through. To be fair though, I haven't seen any of the other volumes in this series so I'm judging it on it's own merits, as opposed to being part of an ongoing series. The Persia/Jessi scene is breathtaking to watch, as Jessi does an excellent job of breast-sucking & cunnilingus on the luscious Persia. The Hayden Night(would love to see more of her) & Katrina scene also had some nice tribbing & good chemistry between the two performers. Magdalene is always entertaining, & Darryl & Brooke put on a good show as well. But the jewel scene is the opener, as Jessi/Persia will become one of my all time favourite lesbian scenes! Perhaps I'm slighting the other scenes(which are very good) but this one really cooks! I would give this 4+ stars & an A-. Oh, and it's loaded with extras like trailers, promos, etc. I already have some ideas about my next purchases.
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I figured that maybe there was an editing issue in your setup but I thought I would bring it up in full disclosure. But I really did like the entire mood of the setup and I kind of figured that Jessi was hiding something and the fact that we only saw half the story explains some of the confusion.

The sex between Persia and Jessi was very good with the facesitting being a particular highlight. Seeing a woman with a full bush sitting on the younger girl's face was very hot and Jessi was very good and hopefully we will see much more of her.

As for the second sex scene I thought it was good as I said but I actually thought Brooke was better in the setup than in the sex she did a great job as the reluctant girl fighting off Darryl's advances but when they actually got to bed she didn't seem as into it. I looked her up and it appears she hasn't done much girl/girl work so maybe it was just inexperience.

But overall I really liked the tone and the edgy storyline and look forward to the rest of the story.
WOW!! Im so glad you liked persia and my scene! This was my very first scene in the industry ever, and I am so glad I did!! I had a blast, and Persia was soo hot, and so easy to work with, that I completely forgot we were on camera! She is a great talent, and I am very pleased with the scene and the fact I got to work with someone this great for my debut performance! I can't wait for everyone to see MDEC 11, because the script really did explain all the mysteries from MDEC 10! And hopefully y'all think my scene in the next with Melissa Monet will be just as hot!!
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Well, I finally made it through this disc. I've been quite busy the past week or so, & when I did view it, I couldn't get past the Persia/Jessi scene(man, that is hot)! I love this movie, & it's very entertaining and arousing all the way through. To be fair though, I haven't seen any of the other volumes in this series so I'm judging it on it's own merits, as opposed to being part of an ongoing series. The Persia/Jessi scene is breathtaking to watch, as Jessi does an excellent job of breast-sucking & cunnilingus on the luscious Persia. The Hayden Night(would love to see more of her) & Katrina scene also had some nice tribbing & good chemistry between the two performers. Magdalene is always entertaining, & Darryl & Brooke put on a good show as well. But the jewel scene is the opener, as Jessi/Persia will become one of my all time favourite lesbian scenes! Perhaps I'm slighting the other scenes(which are very good) but this one really cooks! I would give this 4+ stars & an A-. Oh, and it's loaded with extras like trailers, promos, etc. I already have some ideas about my next purchases.
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WOW!! Im so glad you liked persia and my scene! This was my very first scene in the industry ever, and I am so glad I did!! I had a blast, and Persia was soo hot, and so easy to work with, that I completely forgot we were on camera! She is a great talent, and I am very pleased with the scene and the fact I got to work with someone this great for my debut performance! I can't wait for everyone to see MDEC 11, because the script really did explain all the mysteries from MDEC 10! And hopefully y'all think my scene in the next with Melissa Monet will be just as hot!!
I think they will love it, Jess! See you next week!

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WOW!! Im so glad you liked persia and my scene! This was my very first scene in the industry ever, and I am so glad I did!! I had a blast, and Persia was soo hot, and so easy to work with, that I completely forgot we were on camera! She is a great talent, and I am very pleased with the scene and the fact I got to work with someone this great for my debut performance! I can't wait for everyone to see MDEC 11, because the script really did explain all the mysteries from MDEC 10! And hopefully y'all think my scene in the next with Melissa Monet will be just as hot!!
Jessi, you look absolutely adorable in your avatar! I haven't seen MDEC 11 yet, but I have faith in you & Melissa to light up the screen. Your career is off to a great start, & I hope you continue to make quality lesbian erotica!
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I enjoyed the lighthearted gothic comedy of this entry in the MDEC series, and the spooky nature of Jessi's crypto-gothgirl character & Daryl's basement seductress. Brooke & Daryl's scene is the funniest GFF setup I've seen in quite a while. Persia is fast becoming my favorite new GFF model and it would be a shame if she were to leave Dan's fold prematurely. Hope to see sooo much more of her. And do I even need to say it? Please put her with Prinzzess! :P

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WOW!! Im so glad you liked persia and my scene! This was my very first scene in the industry ever, and I am so glad I did!! I had a blast, and Persia was soo hot, and so easy to work with, that I completely forgot we were on camera! She is a great talent, and I am very pleased with the scene and the fact I got to work with someone this great for my debut performance! I can't wait for everyone to see MDEC 11, because the script really did explain all the mysteries from MDEC 10! And hopefully y'all think my scene in the next with Melissa Monet will be just as hot!!
You might have forgotten about the camera since Persia had all your five senses completely blocked n locked into her own physical hotzone with the face smothering. Great great scene. Unbeliavably hot. Absolutely outstanding for a newcomer. I'm keeping an eye on you... and Persia.

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I enjoyed the lighthearted gothic comedy of this entry in the MDEC series, and the spooky nature of Jessi's crypto-gothgirl character & Daryl's basement seductress. Brooke & Daryl's scene is the funniest GFF setup I've seen in quite a while. Persia is fast becoming my favorite new GFF model and it would be a shame if she were to leave Dan's fold prematurely. Hope to see sooo much more of her. And do I even need to say it? Please put her with Prinzzess! :P

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Really glad you liked it. The second half of the Persia/Jessi story is in MDEC 11. Hope you will enjoy that one, too!
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